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#1 17-12-2016 23:16:09

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Trümmelbach IV "The Connection"

Finally the very famous Trümmelbach is now opened on it's full length!

History:
Trümmelbach V
In 2000 Andreas Brunner descended the Trümmelbach the first time by using his famous natural anchor and rope sling technique. In total he drilled only two bolts by hand for the whole canyon! What an effort..... eusa_clap
8 years later Caracal made this canyon famous by publishing it on Descent-Canyon and in his canyon topo-book "Le Tour de L'Europe en Canyon"
For several years this canyon was and still is one of the top winter-canyons in Europe until the owner of the tourist-part called the police in 2015 and a court case started, which will hopefully end with a good result for us canyoneer in 2017  eusa_pray .

Trümmelbach III
In 2012 Emmanuel Belut discovered the Trümmelbach III section. In late summer 2012 we could open the canyon in two days (first day by finding and equipping the exit, second day doing the canyon).
Since then it got many repeats and it counts to the top canyons in this region.

Trümmelbach I & II
One month after the opening of Trümmelbach III we found two other sections of the Trümmelbach high up, starting close to the Eigerglacier.
Trümmelbach I is of medium interest, but offers some nice sections. Trümmelbach II is partially very nice, but short.

Trümmelbach IV
Since the opening of Trümmelbach I - III it was very obvious, that there must be a nice connection from Trümmelbach III to Trümmelbach V.
It took us 4 years to take the decision for a try. After a carefully check from the side we decided this week to enter at the exit ropes of Trümmelbach III to enter in the last, undiscovered slot of the whole Trümmelbach.
Here a nice description about the Trümmelbach IV by Pascal van Duin:http://pascalvanduin.blogspot.ch/2016/1 … ction.html

With a total length of 6.4km and a height difference of 1855Hm the integral canyon is now one of the longest and also one of the most beautiful canyons in Europe.
Unfortunately all five sections are almost impossible to combine as the ideal time in the year for the several sections is not the same.
A good and challenging combination could now be: Trümmelbach I - III or Trümmelbach III-V (as soon as Trümmelbach V is open again)  icon_cool

Here the full map with all the Trümmelbach sections:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/XBjXc44Bi0c8ROmFy-HnzzoNcD4CWq1Sa5qkSh_wn22MbU5fwT3w_bbGMItcFkv36Vhq57df9gLqHuMnAMGOystiW8WII7DR2MEJFnOojZNiVvRCL9HjpeGOcBL_5lgcpCH-6c7m29ixzbehf0AYLSJbKXbMaEZaYQn0R6a7ULzJjC96_YA5kYcyL1HFcehtrOCLKNqmKX5Ok_jqvXduyE-EoqkMuYo8DBcEkFg1pHCVLB0TQtnseY061FYJR_Uz3p71fNd98QnBy9Fe5Bib12iCp10m7fAIZBp7YuMTHJxVBgNrJDKvJS4MYXKa0HEEJZnRxVW-IpFTdrPypGbeiDR7i4HTprSnHKuXUofyxpc_Q6XwwbYgExlz5XcKkpvOPzxCNhUScZBWCbwcr8PS_fcr5GwclhroGZv1B7DWIRT_6rUSYjbneK5UOGTcyqwFc7KOMvlMbVmCMX9d7LpGDt8-akcbBcoebUGEtf2k2n-xoOXDNrEwIjzlolUIywsr1sRnfqlEbh-O0q-wQ57bkUgSmpD1dqmBRU7vBbTgXBV6wQa5QctDBBRmA7H4K1Lu7U-m2wQdZME3hmCd99q6NCaVq8k50-KOA2m7LXz--3IcH0h5W6JcRLp4PuvGr88OdOwOTzC3pQSOkg8Y4xaZvqs0g2rXe0oSb4sLC2qAyxg=w2203-h739-no

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#2 18-12-2016 21:38:46

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Re: Trümmelbach IV "The Connection"

I cannot say more than "thank you" for opening this section. We repeated Trümmel IV today and it is really an incredible canyon by itself! Some very narrow parts. Some huge gorges that feels like being in a "great canyon" and some nice tobogan / jumping sections at the end.... icon_biggrin

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#3 18-12-2016 22:16:13

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Re: Trümmelbach IV "The Connection"

I did not expect such a fast repeat....but I'm glad you did it and that you liked it  eusa_clap
Hopefully we can do next year the Trümmelbach III-V together.... icon_cool

Dernière modification par holzi (18-12-2016 22:16:51)

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#4 20-12-2016 19:55:45

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Re: Trümmelbach IV "The Connection"

eusa_clap

Un mot : Fantastique !

3-4-5 une course hors norme c'est sur , en esperant que la situation s'améliore pour le final  eusa_pray

Club Spéléo-Canyon, Aix les Bains - le Revard (ASAR)

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#5 20-12-2016 20:57:02

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Re: Trümmelbach IV "The Connection"

Here some photos of the exploration:

The end of the first section, on the left you see some remains of the glacier ice-fall. At the section below exists a higher rock-fall risk.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/zAKtu4UXWiK-d5M6FKIkMM33xocqZw5fF_qUqRrCbSMPUE4vwhDLDbioCtSlSeuVmvPltwrQ0RF2pWSjsoNsY7kRbbiXXp1aO9q9R4-I_KVhZ2LgtYs9fEM-lRdJ1j461iYOoxsx6hPzMcjH25Zuhyh-oIPAZip5D1Whvp6PyhEdQIfoGM364rymX0YMP4M97Q-e-UnE9CqYdbXYKSf3RxQ4VAiO1BEBco2KfCrc6b5sF7mF0dFlq0ZehUwFuEL2mFiOMkLb6_KKWpzugH9gvUol7TWUtgWWEE2euEQJzRVQXh-mcskNxdbHPmdJHNpuHYDDIanTVza-zrVeFSrP_2etA3EFVCpJyNh-SgWK1mmcWdJge7v0oJnrTJMarLf3I33Y_XJRBsbAi-jAz3-X9bvapdrM_5sRPyVAlWiEGguPws7evfW7cKSdp8XADgNqDKb8d0aIPxZG6bakKSX1m8I8nHeQgcPPxdfsEBuAH9fhyM4eVkl9d8WS8v8s_tbhYYQTvSWMoOTmbaavxxvdfriE0pXKp0nrIZ5QXNvU-fIUU4o_DGdHpVwJXtz7-31RzSzL6T61b2QiJqn4daPo8_TS-2XmsCnOuUM9ntgSDGbY-wQbgaVZPi71KavSx8eiurpEwH8j6_DCrwFMqe4j-7By3A4Jo4Lze8mHLXPLk5Q=w1680-h945-no

Just a bit further down is the remain of the "big" ice field. Compared to map.geo.admin.ch the ice-field is less then half of the size, so the satelite photos are quite old. Further is also visible, that there was for quite a long time no big ice-fall in this section.
Also the other two ice-fields visible on map.geo.admin.ch further down the canyon are not more there anymore.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-i3-V0_bTEK0BXm3RR7JOhqNBLP6f5uMjUBXXL9SZX1iA6LTBl27Q0-iNrgkyIGsaTF-OQD0ogi8gu04VLBxXgU9I6NdD-MzU7hJC6gf3kkSoXoey6n0AjXvTjbj6ahFKi8k-RCrJdyhXGrisvehi7aAgHofd46Na0z4DwbMc8QYKeQ6uskt1KjyFCGRCdKaHXKB_sJAyHQTp84R3f7_eqQ5MM7KJmgoXr1RDvByLNLwABMdB1YgTtk5Xmvbdc7hi2EokiUC60sJi6mRlKAY1hzqeE0YJG-tZECr5dGs1L6H5RuWOrpw-4vHZTybxwMK5BQ3pMFcEkpXc6yJ1F63Zc9LRWGINZNb_5gmcBll-C5b6X5PcdfKAhaUsI5T9E6DupSkllw9GXx_GhZpRqX6bnayfJHHC-hI-a8xeMEOIw7guZJEf61Ox8Hpx0CKky4MUb5pYrA940Dukzw_fheXgBAz0YgDZhrGYnft13C50C2fa2CM44TqV5Y1rWRaB1HjeSGn_peQ49rJhHjmqiXHNqNdQy2ERLkKty_Qdtfm6R38qbekz5pGHrpgsP8GY4UZ7JLBihQDq_OLUctJrM0-nslSFMApJ7txkK0omPHYvsyFVQAhdqknWOoUZSEWUoCkzhtbVqrlq82TRttdbI_1su3n60goIqCPHb_KZPt5xZc=w1680-h945-no

starting section:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/tZ0aVqPMy_3t9y_X4Xo7OtBeomRAqdN8kYEug8M_9VfAQTFTZ8EzJ-l5c77imXplufp0GgGpGMoq1MV0PF7nE3Oo6L1RRDf5Xz4diJYFABmIYsEaUk1eEjzrCJEJsUTgux5gdYnjbNCC1roHPV_H0b6ouySnTvT3gW2Jz3xmzqMs8CD0T2uwJVi5I4GOGb5M3kig5O3MpOM-BBQpayodj291qFns2O1d4rk7iwVwLNn9lR2gHi6BT-j34JqpfyCjl56jDkbUMDaqH-Dtmwhj6URAQtcWtod_hr6YuuH9V9dWzo5REdTJKJTc9AuQ1_XeNcHuQ4BoSOEWF-SQ83lnv7Phg6aXgbiNB6Y8xorQh5PivFx3yuTJ7BvmHE2gXOfgh7_7s1bRJXMGSmm91C3eOYELDlL8MLgyIW37HWh_RSyKpeK88XLCNfLjoFQ1se-6lC_cF5zVeaJAtmjW97EH01OdlXMelkCmvGd1Im-i36FdOKGgM7aw_3LTy9--LiTivhO6xrcawdG3M0WAcrSek7ugsbxHB9jYT9bm0nwy3Rpc2Re3H71AVwgJBSaMVpuh7ubxAo68cn0MxIZaSB3gfq33dSawPkcP3XNa7VVrA2a439D-3u7Y24apyiem17QsNmcPCcZ1ZxIAdzjJMvHgFrepZ_X18bmQq01Uudhmc6s=w757-h1345-no

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/h4qo3-8WwhTaY8wJIJtAbiIE4FchmhceeaghIOzEo5bPYKbdcJAq6e443fMG-nK-QTjGlzPE_jXfs56Hxthbs4_CbgZkBqtayMBGsvXXNpxHiTitWF2gBMxw2ZiEPB50qkarvZ-DYSqmRooGMhCYW8q587S0RkAUANa3MG6QIOFAHo-iN6cJu9UgOJFD1ZyT--W_o0g-y60k-xj9s3sXs5IaRZJ-QjbjAur8Y0MqoIPYkHUuTnfrVMTmrRLI_Ew6a5u-2Bzc0cu0W0EXb-YCaIuWImqOdThrXA8ua0T5fS_03zXl4YqsDp99vll9yWtq--3h2AjEFMlVwp18tI1zlh1NikmmYel5SYYmR1PF_XE9Mqmm6YC3PlSpXMoqAfmC9SOpUVWV5wXPoxFobgbCbyOrLVNBnqKEGiDfqn6KlN9A7A6Ag2yd_ky3jVNKeR2nI_GGo9M7z2IwPjYFmq-GbU5-DII9Guwag0PSk2omal6h4FH-sEXyl6dxLRoKzBwhS10tAJXpDGg-16nWncZNYh4veK9su6n5zpy0ohIvdo4vbzuWdJoqpnf3_H-h-HA0vhVTyanqvopNhKNFIql7elJn7NW4QMNT1HQJreTU2rwaSRzHa0Ofsx8aOGaNvdLRUo3ON8YkOT2npufupxFLJ98awwiNhsmK0BHdlu87GHw=w2393-h1345-no

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/K-N0dPo5ZdHP4gx4DXsHY8xoHHZ-UJFM3Jlt-yWFAIGVh8YHUNkrQCF-QlnftxhV9y9pni_nz5fz7Jv64pepWfuZpcf8a1xYgvZl8mH1G-CYL_Sy-f99rJlixyPK9ZGzTl5jpJK2cvVusBkLAv2l4WJt1czMUHqkPKGr4QBBOD2v8fCJg2U47qlXa-B3UDtnqD13yFpBIJCcV0LcvN9x7U53_rXeSoXtyLWhRvLU5-_ej_khqnXMcpMwxbVH2u-POjMWlyvwlUu0imasx8YLt4anGJRZZ4XqPEQk3ClBay5d2Gyld9FCriRu6RwSV-EP0YyD2FQWfXQTz0Qo6LXnudIe38J3d252wNrplk1_XQOK9AdSOwyASeAJ52kjmneFgODaWs4Gfw2lqLkSy3xU_769HlFKruFj6XTQFdFm4lh-m7XcLCdJRaWDkGqeYyHRwci_r6f9q74GqYK8-n4iQ9otPNHgghIwKMPxxvL4o1AJckz8B6QPAe7VjJw_AdCCUleICMYb3lmu4Lbxffs7uI8vlwnwAP4HZEHU9aFNpqUHsW8qQfoB8lH-KYn_M8f7LcPNDmxe-tYR4PDdR6druVo3U9k-HgN_Ltschz8GOn1wEMu5U80YLq6WDENaf7L5HUc80WcehCR6xReD4P5lvyRUULVCsIpkxovWTOB_jQw=w757-h1345-no

It starts to get deeper and narrow:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/vUoOhW-EW6An2LJQEcY3Si42Gj6-JLv5g2_naNLj8lm7IzRxaq5wVlZE8jEYdZsVkYA2DWkTE20X-DH8dSInZNsJHRgbl1qA8GKQynQFkN_XNnPCrJspmg6-wo4NKu90Ho0qJqsupMBy9pVMiVKt2VRYdlhkdxHnRKmlDXlKvdCBS_DhVFaec7x4-ybGn2Bxd-vPKkK0ppWKJZ5AHQbhkk0-TKW5V8smqJUIB8-Se8H75NtB9NQDXak-qFHjpIaPm1a3jSoQK6cYgNjAU1WVaqjh-fnSS5MUxXyqE_btf_7PpgYTmAWZRW-5nPu1dPxJtbiIIRI-N2I-korrJf_W02ZAFUVMI_zqtrNLX54rFIUmyYNDZ0zh6L-3qV7NjoOSxPgegzh_4VENl1SkZH72Vbo3j1a_KtV7UQfTNY98Rl3O2O8WTMmnAfer6HO3zG4IZju9L0s3kyBwKjMz43Cp-UjNNySaeyZHE2Aow-uf25MfgE3hOuS0dz0ml3GGaLBWmErf9pKwRQfB5V_hcbUqBLdwTa5nfSXFSSWTpvixMOcrC9UnL1rK-_Bd-K_AUKNBlFMc_ZpbhMIPiHzjUPZfEy3zGHZrD8VaMlicUAO9wFP46L3ssBzq7I9z7yG1ievuVHW_m9PfvxXvWFCTfFJEj1ABqPpPdcYWODHdCcOyeY0=w757-h1345-no

Chockstone high above:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/xoARzcJXZNskQYUqRpVErssRPGEt6D6twjF-fhLWt5yYc8AD85dfyqRYnJ2LjXNGl1v1kp6tqJBO4F4_YQO9opzLk6EGQOkiZBuZ19LJsDkmBugVjDBoPe4f0ue5AhSd63oQ3TDXLzpdZw_nnakqPL81RhcSzxPyp5Up7fh7CEvsd4rJtLSvy56duSRUXg1R36IHk0FmwLW5xwY2MWve2rrv8Bzk2N2bjfJ9UXt7QQ4PfErezOxNaEpqlWORmiG3kageVBIrlGqGa_pe7RcCQZFDAMLcWikmExZEpFbjglgy3dMLHw0yFIybtVKFQmC_K0ajsUBmMRaSmWQ5QsPk2df4A2GZVJoFsuV6j-O9AlUSuAiR3ZE4Bp0DKOS05vX-_RgxD2p_ihxoNX-hMTulsn15gtzyiH84f2jW5yadtrDaPXbVkgY8NeAr8fXAZrJp70DSO6CO69xo1oRktST_GmAXXMl25nL8YJd5iV8vufqSfLl8qhsvHP5oebok-MGqnr1zDiKJfkxdutIuewm-pKG0-69rzG2B_IiRbFok-lv85Dvx-EUzgAgqhAPvvUzAugZZDB2ukgI4gjjQHVzguymDFYEj0FAU6ur0TOncuVvdUOL4nBDA-senxc9sX7lpSTKVHiGk4ypxzvbq-SD5v3NoLY5UcPbPiUWe94_--_s=w757-h1345-no

The narrow and deep crag:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/C1RAMTKslykCNVan8GdPNYSKBjsxrsrCFqARXp84oxN_H6SIshPwMIFERXfJilYP150Ennolk8rioszz2fwwsn4cmXc7AL7OEnt5XhO9Jb9dJUvw1QxAkPkWO4U-FM8tnlSGq-Htp76B_idPjKjN78shPDDmOSXGGbXjxCFOxAbRkIrh7UeXDUZCIyUvz4wcI77RJzDSfw8RYRLqFLYj53QtpuS5XrlKpCAkLkR5jwY5KaZmbRdc6jw1p-qEWPHOT_AuF-BO7Cxh1ktHWVCft704fy0S7qke5g_d68RAQOBv-towIlEt-7DuA-2jpVAm2yEYPCdDJc56tEEToejUYokP9KuC652EXAIIkmP1pUq9TLOSg4I97KW_XLaV-zYDqljI2zsSuGABmMkhDgACmNV07RprdUGoriAh9lc55DKfsfoJfKMt2Ki-4pl7cRQDaX_Q2ZvR8tbTPLwYDuWhJSBYZ12qopbrqNHf1QIV0iVXSPRw-5UYaWzo8-kqmrY_z9gJ4zKoJma1Kpe3q06d1lxl0gmI_1mVj0Yc8_DfhLhJkb8F6q593BypLNEy9bNpCngCTx_wL0Q9yAnD8xS1X1pSS8ZYy4imv6X5n0msMrAmv_qhZ_JsjaIk9D5n8MUnrjhBaVA2OcPbrzUkGxU1zUD7zMzpUvREQqZNtnlRRD0=w897-h1345-no

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/xYJA-fY9x_0UgPjVW-4NcPt4iKzpUEyyk1JE8JkGHTbK2vNcmhEV6B4MQE3FG7CxrrAKusJIRZa7P-foNJXehtLGL5rGy6hVagy7od6txbMDPq2oSbbZhp2CdYVTaxT3S4sQpdLUbacoP3llayD9QoEwwJZf-C2vtRbkF5r6Ba5_lzscNHGCZjl19HGUDyR5l3vm4WywBtOkNbYwrgNI04plfjhksGgw-HucePMa96ltPhdxSJeKqJYbHitgfnFO8OFrZACP8kvv_GhxsYpDFdqOzFLdd9Zc6JAicHxOWKaQ8MLgvLKpZwJAgLgCB_3vWB8MKocq55Rjn71EUvHz0nPoHrwtYue0lmvd_gLuumgCwOZ4VhYrjzow79uviifEluaG-I1mYj02yLU2-oLaVaSG_2HvWHBf9tPHEC8Jge9cq-7cH9cJ3iGEMVPS_dAK3B7S1SnArb5ihVYgzlOTSnoFQKeyeEsEEfRaNS2QW-Z9v4xtQde0vt0paa08_0c09E_7aCL0mZ969C6NbasjNono-4G-5kHpB5dysa0wM1GByh440Lg2c8SaksAOxaEjlb30jwmFCG7BchL37hC6GCVN6G80Dm1ArVz8yzJJTIBoM9IywD4IumNtrKVJ8LKf2J3puCSZGvhgR5Z3mw1nGmlVmWYaGBfG0MAEVWw7tnI=w897-h1345-no

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/RAWvr6d7V-g3fRtG1mhfKhld4jPpPr6BQf7Ek1jslTjQ75mCbAXCbJy3_k36MS4v4kolMwmnrb6XMSkQ2yK9tG0fMyYiEhOjAty79PYgYlGgC0uXDf5AXebiGp9Wi3FOpSOtv6bK3BUw3b1CA2EF-ikJffH-KIIBZ-JGJljsKG80YNcvlBN_Kr5g5-OXz9Wt1bYJLZ1FugFgj6MVlhIzqO2LdI9ufooeUBC-Us98RzQfBn7MfEM2PGP7SCQ5AE5k9w8pdk7xWNXlB5msEMCZEk4rWvtFRFuslqZCGL7IMNleor2oycRiD2vkV_-RGCj-zvtlsasditmoKS0fSKP8ANWIRlb_6EJQ8sm3hSM2KrAbhWR_6I2NRwLHrOZSkdmUw9NIqbu4FNNOUBBJ4eEhqMSY5HwgrGcypP3gnA4s7fSMOY9_pJyuSRp7SUXeRTcVHphSKGMr5bCbyA9ZraI0DR_1h7aR-cwzfdPJ12WT_ZTHnrdmwcYhTLjyLgkSzI79NlXmyDURk86-CANNf0Fmt4E-WdJI2GQQgOfhaVn8fLgTO3yk6z6EJ0gN9GETuNWBPvSDATfNpARzvs2PRL8ibQzQ-4mM8Yi5VHbOWd6HObi2mmJ06ae_S9nzm3A2ECp696COsYNzbQhosKGDlA_vGYvmhlOIcRf0gR9VfL0OxaU=w757-h1345-no

The ice-tunnel:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/kb9nX16jKR_SNIeV_8-TJbEBgCihfOvISTOa_CAM6sUHeT6ox2fnkaBKPyzMnFyyrCNvmgsBEDlbNVWIBuTJ3VFkQCaHaPJQy0u__Sy3g7nGM1L_XrD5Hq3staDvFuX6H0FiKjNlTfU6SXR7RZXAzxm-ZTEC4z8Ls8gTx16FBjAUIXccoRBHfksksXr9w9wplRdrK6jrg9F2D_PQc0JaN8Aq5tMqpDBDu9NY3fWNCd3ekOCvPO_vBfBtyvI2gyY52MtBrXG2Myfv_K0M4l7VoyG_BxI0d2xoBjzR4XwnGaOUjCajNgjAS4-eIENlXVW-FfSwe0PypvwKbepLJSv-NeiOSVtcaVKimJJplMjgEw5E1WYce01OrLg-Yrvjtuhc9h3dNfZwx6mEeNy4XY1SK4Np_2Eg-1c9u3eMKkXAG4i2wUCZ_C2LLtBxmY4O5MBuEUqC1e2Jq6lwERaTbjeSakEke_ILkMcLM9L6AdDtUsXP70lm7eCCLEIPgvduJwECpo7rM7F2USA0Q8xHW9xu0xhka7a0dvtfNuD_mvbPMxIzsNOr68XAkCdLvIA50ECntoh1C2Y8kTm9KDs78jvJWl7Mn7gsAfOeoU-BM7XNi8nKuuFVRFJwm-a5J9JNhvemUyb9BsEexBXqQsMzlNgbGMp0UJo-E28BsxHKtKBzbj8=w2393-h1345-no

The last big crag with the following slides and jumps:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/oZMUV2zMQZniqbbE09jUh5aMmWdwy5hCoALoBDBgaUumQgSAbzSyKZv07oit9AYSBs14OXmayVHNblPEhZe73oqGiCb8Yi1c_qR1nnLQVR4kKe0-yisDYa-_MAFpbn3_Y20F_Hx2KKzgZ_5xvI1KQjIzDuxr-9QBnYWwsKbG-zDtW5JEvFkViY0J1wFdN9hRx4GR1dhm8UWotQk6fAAwvA75HcsNHQlZgsP_81gcDWyp0I2UpTsCQ2zo0P2nA3u9Wish3s8eDvkb30JHeQhBwhTKMBcGaIvIf6pvSHSlRk7fDJEZ1EPVi6PHBH9lpKJRc7yupfXicRe4U3rsuB3yi5RSKsaMne-Boq0-05ttYb7Tmj1oWeW97FmFewUkjzj_OdJvPFTHxkfRtoGTU45JWhtOjSMhkQMa2TXMO6xcUJL4JGIpMz5BvH-zGojdOZDtP_hdd4z7WZIS__zgfFhNUmRmApQfl8KZmoERpOFV9eB9F2n--Wkjq847CWmxC-WmjTLbyuYGlOpp_u2mqPFdpZf5YTB2FHnSuxUl_DeyhTED4uFQEwWWrYUz1QOgznH53XIVo1z09WejhvYAB9ivmsia29e5B-UcvRd6xmr5PQdy3kvpFKF0Z31wbQVILGAqVElNBfMUqBGkqyKlA-uDsvWMnnYo_C5FIvnodOeVK8Q=w897-h1345-no

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/rqEdPON2UeVuE7m0FspijaMhxR6gju26TdmrPTtz0ETdrPjYUP9DFyNf9eWLB6RWHHRL72nmpMUirqUVUXNUsY9AaNkpF3Ynficy24p1JCT1nEkK7zrmiUOpi4n9yvBmzPBKevsRcOizVsUofMz33M6aOdtFlJ4Wv4Ss3ltCrWTZJMPJqDPg7xN8DvawO8CpYeffH1_k5fglSUtLTThrJPe5UBvO47Ufoct876GS4tEJMOE2i4od58J8sWPLOhaKYQPlcsaWSGka4Gp8kwHrN_FDojS01gYxTUMhyruPFdmnsgiDc6FH9gW_atTDXQRsNx5UQyv6MWDhZOK_qX3cYa1IH45bxeIbYboHkHVXA6ANm5nWL-s1CNy3k-DW-M_I6bMg1zbl1wDFSxGqu5t84EQVGEm5MABX3x7TKRBrTNt4vKRVTPUvb_yW9Hk9ZXLLQTmqKrGkw2PewCk4zYbk6cdj2nlFUPhr2HmlVMYPmB_u2trDH3NWt8avwHt4WLA5nBjt3ni58GF4wwIEvfSbT5lHpgCESCZNM4N-7X40H1_ITQhzSmxEpSLclk0sDW0nm8pCqm00ws3pTWqjjwk4V1FRlCMjro6b74LovAGVfS3V72LVbinqvqj98MNnNC5fA1bp7FB-8257ZIo01qpXYPitcR-sqTd-8PZl1TYxeSo=w757-h1345-no

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/vY3E0wlEN9EaAmLYZ3Pq6lLJ4iODHZKe4l5gZnSNWVX8CFskqWaoXwgKMdUmF4hfIQehHZyq2Xy7QILrmhnfuWDQuzTIi6Csxa-UHUs-0ZlDWqsDNBQe7Uk-E3ea3wBHbGbnguBApFSuvSU1BkRjQ7zayeSbl8vN4zhu2dZgO8UvW9IVG79HwGrFKPj0c1KYcKEe3XfGc7rLunzsDJyKMyAUEPO8nbiMqf7KdkgBPuCuYO_f8ZOSLrE-zJNFawCNBqEUUiysW4I5oa47R6GzRq61YeYi3M4o-xtAGiLsBJodU5PoXnuUyS0R7UoNVCE2P92Io4knQiBkel6o9GMSS_TwDoUco9hNq4HvUJKJdov4VFYT-470e-E3RPmnRXvtj5IxR8O5XhhqUiG-tyeT5FllgyUUmnhenUqEdAFbut0PaDloUnrZTZ0oDIqXCKIKQNZ0Ca8xe-Irr54Zqub9h4k3V1fEqMspjtepmOGEDdvQjHpgc_T47NXc6x-9pHK-dsp205cPmfqh9E5K38SvNlgiOansf4hq2zDlvbCZfAJ4FP6yLKn9iYoyNcgo3vop35OB7uf8xS64dTu0epJQYYCEFXrZAsa68b5Ax0BFldrzNaI2IG0WTt5ia-Rmu6i-AR3psgR2MjVVsoySboGPyqQd8k9obNCe2y8WxQHUCYw=w2393-h1345-no

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/by7TLLDGm27YdftJiwBIE4iKxJIN97xsQpOy6__nDIYDgPj_rwAEK3IhuOZSdDiLlEla8_JNsgkICJi3_9oTv5LRe1535vCTuzupZ7Za1X-5Of-CNn5v0WllbWqhJyDaMasy8PTzGWV37a2wb0k9xVMTLXav46EZcWztS4VHLxA5qWOZnfJJ9_RgxqHf088cLrZ-4DoOn3PANwJW5KicjuaGiqQS-NirAp42oGUgNozi4f2fk9BuVEpJNWb3c85CNkHI4mYEqx1xq3q0FQy9rPDCvAl8aO-w78pwXkvx7vs_m7BvC5yfL1pAvWWvM9p-REz8OYy9LAEXbplOdPsn6eUY26bLbuHIeYIa3kwtgincRWca4bshq3TGrWJY2AVJoOjpxoQTbQjK5mqY9qWniJmA8j-DJvJaHRCppT6_WCTaazmbEb0ZWERwieJ4GADZMBg3dCGANxnt2iIIAovCcL3LHmynjOk5m0X2HfNBhEn7AgihaZut-gY2ZiQir82uAzebVUNqqFph6KDBy2xtf3CJo_gSESBirhD1OO49s45XBp6TwQzza3QJT9ItDqJM9RZNLkKM4qHWx2dpHIcIFmHsqUhHmS6GGDrq6hMZo9DBhhb-60qAcXYCTO5Fhoj6yxMSn00Xh4fGzhAOHGRGEFWl4p0h2DioOxzyV8Jxipg=w757-h1345-no

Exit at the Trümmelbach V start  icon_cry :
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/7LZgUyheWY-vGR9stB3NvFt157a_kfzooE4cDLqMJD9d1Ocnv0NN6iGoxW7YAOKlLo5v1RZFxxfjt4c5rL4N6W7DzouNDmAv_A-u-OZfunS4DCJaoMK8HrAWIZsi0gVFkQH5xK2pnjKhO96j2p4YuT7FZ-UQwWsBuXrNOuVEsRV9qaJ9Uliya3UivkK4TTZmyhohzjC8vXCL9F_o5zrP4X1_BYjsvuVNbB2h3jrFpe7mF8_dzDsEExeCXIvQ9M1O05vH09MamDSHfr9UUGN-2KMlUBuCuF1U9SV3gblijNS49f6iPoEOo8QDE9xZwZlxVp7_RKXoCxC08GGOlSFbwNE0LAgk7mn_56eZ9xS1626icTEapapsySXo3gth6r5YKO6VtPzIlbClYHTsgEAt28C2XeDVEMSnndo8-E5YkJ0V6II9c4H_lrJRUByS5pCCxIwJ2Xujk3qVFx76BMuMqkQ-dvYNLX1R-SejVbiGGekpB2hHEuMWGvMP6Ua2OZ5yXvYlfS9PWGaFOlzpw-t0e-BvFcyXS6ylS3U5HgmeuBg-4AeCPioHbkMQsxr1qzNuX5f6y5czSNptJIlFrZ-Wi24CY_3lvRu6ToB1xH5Ni0OciMJibhSANZKVqbssovydZ_fGacOkHvKdDUDj9uGcYTFFEw-IDItmEJlxrTt9Bb0=w757-h1345-no

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#6 26-12-2016 02:12:20

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Comme tu dis c'est un magnifique enchaînement, Quel dénivelé, quelle longueur, des descentes si intenses, mais quasiment-impossible à réaliser en une seule fois.

Quoi qu'il en soit, on finira tous un jour dans un lit icon_mrgreen icon_mrgreen

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#7 26-12-2016 19:50:23

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Tout d'abord un grand merci à Holzi, Pascal and cie pour l'ouverture et l'équipement de ce canyon!!! icon_biggrin
Nous avons parcouru cette magnifique descente avec Sébastien (alias Milon) le samedi 24 decembre pour fêter en beauté la Veille de Noël. Un magnifique cadeau pour n'importe quel canyoneur!!
Un véritable canyon alpin et glaciaire entourré des 3 fameux sommets de l'Oberland!!! eusa_dance
Une première partie rappelant les superbes étroitures de Trümmel 3. Une superbe marche de transition avec des passages souterrains ou plutôt sous nevés de toute beauté avec une superbe arche en glace. Un deuxième encaissement dans un autre calcaire rappelant des ambiances de Gries et un final avec de jolis petits sauts et tobogans. A mon avis, la Trümmel "connection" mérite largement un 3.2 à 3.6.  icon_razz
Une eau claire, des encaissement variés et magiques, un passage sous glaciaire, un panorama grandiose.  icon_biggrin
Un peu de glace dans la première partie mais qui ne nécessitait pas l'usage des crampons et du piolet pour accéder aux ancrages et dans les rappels. Pour éviter quelques malencontreuses chutes de glace, nous avons cassé la glace dans les 3 à 4 premiers rappels.
Seul bémol, le rocher sous l'eau est recouvert d'algues qui rendent les marches très glissantes. Petite déception et frustration de ne pouvoir enchainer la partie 5 et de devoir sortir à la passerelle d'entrée du classique et majestueux Trümmelbach V.
Je suis certain qu'on aura l'occasion de se rattraper en 2017 et d'enchainer Trümmel I à IV mais également Trümmelbach III à V.
A mon humble avis, Trümmelbach 4 passe d'ailleurs sans soucis avec plus d'eau. A refaire l'année prochaine plus tôt dans la saison!!!! icon_biggrin  eusa_dance
Tout simplement majeur, incroyable et splendide. Les mots pour parler de ce petit joyaux me manque!!! icon_biggrin
Mille merci à Holzi, Pascal et leurs amis pour cette superbe ouverture. eusa_clap

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#8 26-12-2016 19:53:05

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Un futur classique c'est certain!!! Sans parler des enchainements Trümmel I à IV ou III à V!!!
Merci et bravo eusa_angel

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#9 07-01-2017 16:56:16

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A great thanks for this final oppening in Trummelbach ! I'm looking forward for the end of the court case, to go back in this unique canyon and discovering all it can offer. Just for the sake of precision: the landlord did not call the police, but called directly someone in the Court of Thun (or Bern, I can't remember). This person from the court contacted the policeman, asking him to come and give us a fine directly. The cop did not try to explain what was illegal in doing this canyon, he recognized he did not know, but he said he only did what he was expected to do by the court. Now I'm still waiting for either an explanation or an apologize, more than one year later. Unlucky they are, I'm a very hard headed person who knows his rights. In order to be the canyon it deserves to be, trummelbach has to get its final part oppened again to everyone. Lets hope it will make a good precendent for swiss law. Trummelbach's story is to be continued, thanks to those who carry on...

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#10 01-02-2017 09:31:05

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Complete story in French and English:

http://www.beontherope.com/fr/2017/01/l … t-achevee/

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#11 01-02-2017 12:30:00

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#12 01-02-2017 13:26:10

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Nice!  eusa_dance

--- In Openbach we trust ---  http://www.openbach.com

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#13 01-02-2017 21:41:10

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oui beau boulot et super résumé  eusa_clap  eusa_clap  eusa_clap

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#14 07-04-2017 13:47:28

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#15 07-04-2017 21:05:23

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holzi a écrit:

Finalement la fiche: http://www.descente-canyon.com/canyonin … ch-IV.html

Enfin!!! eusa_dance  icon_mrgreen

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#16 01-11-2017 10:52:33

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Canyoning Trümmelbach V
Letter of intent dated October 2017 between Kaspar von Almen AG and the Swiss Mountain Guides Association SBV.
The most important points:
Canyoning is only permitted outside the opening and operating hours of the von Almen AG facility!
The operation of von Almen AG is usually closed from 15 November to 15 December and 10 January and 15 March. Canyoning is permitted during these periods by appointment.
Visits only by appointment! Phone no. 0041 33 855 32 32

This number provides information about the specific opening hours and work on the ravines.
The paths, bridges and tunnels of von Almen AG must not be used. Emergency situations are reserved.
The exit from the canyon in the valley floor is exclusively on the left side of the stream (direction of flow) after the last waterfall.
Abseiling hooks may be replaced if in old/bad conditions. New installations may only be installed with the consent of von Almen AG.
The gorge is rated v5a5V and therefore reserved for very experienced canyoning enthusiasts with adequate equipment!
Von Almen AG accepts no liability whatsoever for accidents in connection with canyoning.
We ask all canyonists to stick to the above-mentioned points! In the event of non-observance by individual persons, von Almen AG reserves the right to cancel the declaration of intent and prohibit the canyon for canyoning.

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#17 01-11-2017 11:55:08

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Thanks Holzi for all your efforts. Unfortunnatly I won't be enthousiatic and applaud this result as a victory or even a good news. It is indeed a sad news, which confirms the corruption of swiss policy around private property in general and here about private property of lands in particular. It is a fact : a landlord can own a whole mountain and river, contrary to the letter of swiss civil law, by some kind of juristic magic trick. As a result, if one wants to humbly visit those natural beauty, one has to ask for the permission of the allmighty landlord, who keeps to his personnal discretion the power at any time, if unhappy, to forbid the access again. We're warned, so please all bend your knees... It is sad indeed. I can only wish it wont always be like this, and that the power of money will be defeated in some futur and submited to more important value, like the common possession of territories to the population. What was recently something we could hope would come n some relativly near futur is vanishing away as another crazy uthopia for dreamers.
   And personnally, I can only encourage anyone who will dare to oppose to this disgusting power, by any non violent mean, legal or illegal... In the mean time, one of the best canyon of the world is now completely accessible, thanks to My Lord Von Allmen, but moreso thanks to the discoverers. Von Allmen familly will pass, Trummelbach will stay. Ses foutues passerelles auront disparues depuis longtemps que les cascades cracheront toujours et encore leur majestueuses et furibondes gerbes d'eau ! Une pensée réconfortantes...

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#18 01-11-2017 16:56:53

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+1
situation triste et qui malheureusement tend à se généraliser de + en +

mais merci Holzi pour ton dévouement et ton partage !

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#19 09-11-2017 20:18:57

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We did Trummelbach IV the 3rd of November. Anchors ok. The big snowfield has completely melted, changing forever this section of the Canyon. The danger of serac collapsing is always present and cannot be avoided.

\\\\\   In good canyon pictures i trust  /////

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#20 09-11-2017 23:14:51

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emilium a écrit:

Thanks Holzi for all your efforts. Unfortunnatly I won't be enthousiatic and applaud this result as a victory or even a good news. It is indeed a sad news, which confirms the corruption of swiss policy around private property in general and here about private property of lands in particular. It is a fact : a landlord can own a whole mountain and river, contrary to the letter of swiss civil law, by some kind of juristic magic trick. As a result, if one wants to humbly visit those natural beauty, one has to ask for the permission of the allmighty landlord, who keeps to his personnal discretion the power at any time, if unhappy, to forbid the access again. We're warned, so please all bend your knees... It is sad indeed. I can only wish it wont always be like this, and that the power of money will be defeated in some futur and submited to more important value, like the common possession of territories to the population. What was recently something we could hope would come n some relativly near futur is vanishing away as another crazy uthopia for dreamers.
   And personnally, I can only encourage anyone who will dare to oppose to this disgusting power, by any non violent mean, legal or illegal... In the mean time, one of the best canyon of the world is now completely accessible, thanks to My Lord Von Allmen, but moreso thanks to the discoverers. Von Allmen familly will pass, Trummelbach will stay. Ses foutues passerelles auront disparues depuis longtemps que les cascades cracheront toujours et encore leur majestueuses et furibondes gerbes d'eau ! Une pensée réconfortantes...

Tu as raison... mais ce document peut être considéré avec optimisme comme une brèche dans l'obstination de ce Mr Von Almen... L'accès est autorisé pendant les deux périodes mentionnées, c'est déjà un premier pas eusa_dance
Au fait, ça en est où la procédure pour l'amende de 140 chf icon_question Il y a du nouveau?

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#21 10-11-2017 10:43:27

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PL06 a écrit:

c'est déjà un premier pas eusa_dance
Au fait, ça en est où la procédure pour l'amende de 140 chf icon_question Il y a du nouveau?

-Un premier pas... mouais, je n'ai pas entendu qu'un second pas soit au programme, et c'est un recul par rapport à la situation avant mon incident, quand tout le monde considérait que le canyon était accessible librement tant qu'on ne touchait pas aux passerelles...

-Pas de nouvelle depuis longtemps de l'amende suisse. J'y reviendrai ici quand j'en saurai plus et que certaines données sensibles pour le dossier auront été déclassifiées  icon_wink

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#22 10-11-2017 18:10:12

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emilium a écrit:

-Pas de nouvelle depuis longtemps de l'amende suisse. J'y reviendrai ici quand j'en saurai plus et que certaines données sensibles pour le dossier auront été déclassifiées  icon_wink

OK c'est cool. Merci. On croise les doigts!

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