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Seerenbach - The highest waterfall in Switzerland
Publié : dim. 11 nov. 2012 17:41
par holzi
Finally!
Last Friday Laso, Timo and I opened a great line trough the highest waterfall in Switzerland, the Seerenbachfall.
We entered at the bridge 1190m.
The first part is amazingly nice with nice shaped rock and some jumps and slides. This part was already opened and published on schluchttour.ch years ago (we found one anchor).
After that first part the big face wall starts with an amazing view over the Walensee and the Glarnerland.
Officially measured the whole waterfall is 585m in height.
http://www.waterfall.ch/index.php?N1_ID ... guageID=de
The three main sections of this waterfall are 50m, 305m, 190m.
We splitted the 305m waterfall in four parts: 70-80m, 70-80m, 70-80m, 110m (maybe Timo will correct me

)
In know this gives more than 305m but we added with the last 110m one more step which probably does not count to the 305m.
However, the real highlight is kept to the very end
190m cascade, of which are 150m free hanging and directly in the main water
We used a brand new 200m rope, sponsored by Mammut to realize this amazing descent.

Probably the worldwide highest freehanging abseil done in the water.
For all the repeaters:
The rope hangs still at the last waterfall as it would have been probably too hard to pull it down (200m of rope directly in the waterflow)
Go before the winter and ice comes, so the rope will be still in good conditions, or you can take it down when you think you are able to do it
Here some impressions:
https://picasaweb.google.com/1130736200 ... redirect=1
Publié : dim. 11 nov. 2012 17:49
par bernotom
Nice one!!!
Pictures are nice, especially the start of the canyon.
So you leave a 200m rope brand new in a canyon??? Thanks Mammutt!!!
It should be heavy to carry this rope all along the canyon!!
So to do it we need a 150m rope? it is long!!!

Publié : dim. 11 nov. 2012 18:09
par holzi
bernotom a écrit :So to do it we need a 150m rope? it is long!!!

No at the moment with one additional bolt you can do it with 2 x 80-90m rope
The last 190m waterfall should been done in one step. It is hard to drill hanging on 150m rope and you will swing away from the wall when you press for the drill
You would need at least a hook which keeps you in place and a good protection from the water which sprays heavy on your head after 150m of freefall

Publié : dim. 11 nov. 2012 18:17
par bernotom
If I new what you did, I would took my friday off!!
Publié : dim. 11 nov. 2012 18:26
par holzi
bernotom a écrit :If I new what you did, I would took my friday off!!
Sorry.....It was not really planned to do it. I organized the rope on Thuersday afternoon to do the canyon on Friday.
But you told me that you do not have time to come

I would have loved to share the rope weight. 200m + 110m + 70m + 50m + two drills and 25 anchors for 3 people.
Publié : dim. 11 nov. 2012 18:30
par bernotom
holzi a écrit :I would have loved to share the rope weight. 200m + 110m + 70m + 50m
+ Timo's heavy bag!!!
holzi a écrit :But you told me that you do not have time to come

I've got more time now, not really easy but possible to take a day off.
Publié : dim. 11 nov. 2012 18:49
par Timo
Publié : dim. 11 nov. 2012 19:01
par Timo
bernotom a écrit :holzi a écrit :I would have loved to share the rope weight. 200m + 110m + 70m + 50m
+ Timo's heavy bag!!!

Salut Bernotom
J'ai grande envie de le repeter en été avec shorty, materiel légèr et un peu plus d'eau; mais ca dependra d'un certain responsoring pour une longue corde
Gruass, Timo
Publié : dim. 11 nov. 2012 19:07
par bernotom
Timo a écrit :bernotom a écrit :holzi a écrit :I would have loved to share the rope weight. 200m + 110m + 70m + 50m
+ Timo's heavy bag!!!

Salut Bernotom
J'ai grande envie de le repeter en été avec shorty, materiel légèr et un peu plus d'eau; mais ca dependra d'un certain responsoring pour une longue corde
Gruass, Timo
So the rope you leave, if no one come this year to repeat the canyon you will leave it there? After the winter it will be in pieces??
You will have to come next year to clean it!!! Otherwise it is dirty to leave 200m of rope there.
Publié : dim. 11 nov. 2012 20:10
par holzi
Nice photos Timo, I could find me on the last waterfall....but good eyes are needed despite the orange jacket

Publié : dim. 11 nov. 2012 20:11
par bernotom
Publié : dim. 11 nov. 2012 20:30
par holzi
bernotom a écrit :So the rope you leave, if no one come this year to repeat the canyon you will leave it there? After the winter it will be in pieces??
You will have to come next year to clean it!!! Otherwise it is dirty to leave 200m of rope there.
I decided to leave the 190m rope (I cutted the last 10 meters off) there because I thought that we wont be able to get it down. Otherwise we would have 2 x 200m of rope hanging there.
Tom you are right that I need to find a solution to clean it off or to get it down. Maybe a pulley system would be enought.
I think when the winter comes, the ice which hangs on the rope will destroy it or will tear down the tree where we fixed it. The breaking strength of the rope we used is 30kN.
--> but there is still a good chance to repeat the canyon this year

Publié : dim. 11 nov. 2012 20:54
par bernotom
Publié : dim. 11 nov. 2012 22:30
par holzi
No it was a 10.5mm static rope from Mammut. Still thick but comfortable for such a long abseil

Publié : lun. 12 nov. 2012 13:15
par fiumicicoli
Trop cool!
Timo ton lien photo ne marche pas?
Pour la 190m j'avais calculé 130m plein gaz d'après une photo, c'était pas loin. Effectivement ça devient compliqué à équiper.
Isn't there any way to pull back your rope from the top? I had the feeling that it was possible to access by foot at the top of the 190. (but maybe not?)
Good job, many have thought about this waterfall before

Publié : lun. 12 nov. 2012 13:37
par holzi
fiumicicoli a écrit :Trop cool!
Timo ton lien photo ne marche pas?
Pour la 190m j'avais calculé 130m plein gaz d'après une photo, c'était pas loin. Effectivement ça devient compliqué à équiper.
Isn't there any way to pull back your rope from the top? I had the feeling that it was possible to access by foot at the top of the 190. (but maybe not?)
Good job, many have thought about this waterfall before

Here Timo's link:
https://picasaweb.google.com/1163121005 ... ch_121109#
Yes there is a way to get up there, it's some kind of tyrolienne to cross the river and get to a height just above the Rinquelle. From there you should be able to walk up.
If someone is interested to do it again this year I would like to join

Publié : lun. 12 nov. 2012 14:36
par Timo
Salut Fiumicicoli
On aura probablement un acces au départ de la cascade III du Seerenbach par des pentes raides et des vires à l'est, il y a eventuellement quelques ressauts à l'escalade à faire.
Gruass, Timo
Publié : lun. 12 nov. 2012 19:51
par Caracal
A ca y est vous l'avez fait. C'est super. Depuis le temps que je le regardais de l'autoroute (et d'en haut aussi, j'avais fait un tour dans la partie amont

)
Publié : mar. 30 avr. 2013 19:41
par Timo
Salut
L'hiver venait
et passait - et avec la fonte de ce printemps la corde n'était plus là (une sangle restait sur l'arbre rd). Il faut allors revenir avec une nouvelle corde de 200m.
Gruass, Timo
Publié : mar. 30 avr. 2013 19:44
par Timo
Avec la fonte:
Gruass, Timo
Publié : mar. 30 avr. 2013 20:09
par bernotom
Publié : mar. 30 avr. 2013 21:06
par johan06
Publié : mer. 01 mai 2013 10:52
par holzi
The rope has been removed, probably from some ice climber or some speleologists.
It was not teared down by the water or ice, so there was no pollution of the water

Publié : mer. 01 mai 2013 19:24
par nec
Timo a écrit :bernotom a écrit :holzi a écrit :I would have loved to share the rope weight. 200m + 110m + 70m + 50m
+ Timo's heavy bag!!!

Salut Bernotom
J'ai grande envie de le repeter en été avec shorty, materiel légèr et un peu plus d'eau; mais ca dependra d'un certain responsoring pour une longue corde
Gruass, Timo
Est-ce qu'en été l'étiage est vraiment prononcé ?
Parce que si c'est le cas, j'aurais une proposition pour virer la corde en dernier... (Fabien, tu dis rien)
Publié : jeu. 02 mai 2013 12:56
par fiumicicoli
nec a écrit :Est-ce qu'en été l'étiage est vraiment prononcé ?
Parce que si c'est le cas, j'aurais une proposition pour virer la corde en dernier... (Fabien, tu dis rien)
Oui sauf orage (crue rapide)